{"id":1310,"date":"2007-08-14T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2007-08-14T12:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/orcldoug.com\/blog\/?p=1310"},"modified":"2007-08-14T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2007-08-14T12:00:00","slug":"thats-more-like-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/orcldoug.com\/blog\/2007\/08\/14\/thats-more-like-it\/","title":{"rendered":"That&#8217;s More Like It!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>(and I&#8217;m writing this from a <i>positive<\/i> perspective)<\/p>\n<p>Now that the community is over the initial &#8216;Look over, there! It&#8217;s 11g!!!!&#8217;, there are some genuinely interesting blogs kicking around. (Maybe we need to give these things a little <i>time<\/i>?) I&#8217;d better only talk about a couple, though, or Dave Edwards will start telling me off for pre-empting this week&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pythian.com\/blogs\/category\/log-buffer\/\">Log Buffer<\/a>!<\/p>\n<p>For my part, my feelings about 11g haven&#8217;t changed from those I expressed to a fairly well known Oracle employee at last year&#8217;s UKOUG conference. I couldn&#8217;t see why people were so negative about the announcements in 2006. What were people expecting? Don&#8217;t they <i>care<\/i> about minor incremental improvements, features to improve test environment management and the like? (I&#8217;m just waiting for Noons to pop up and request some bug fixes here!) <\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t expect to see any dramatic changes in such a mature product, but there are shed-loads of tiny little, &#8216;Oh, I could have done with <i>that<\/i> in the past&#8217; improvements. I&#8217;m sad that way &#8211; I get excited about database-level default and temporary tablespaces and the like &#128521; Getting the existing features to work the way I need them to is always a good starting point. In fact, Niall&#8217;s list on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dizwell.com\/prod\/node\/935\">this forum posting<\/a> rang true with the way I see the world. My list wouldn&#8217;t be the same, but there would be some UNION there. (Damn, I try to avoid database jokes like the plague normally!)<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, others have taken more time to play with 11g and Howard&#8217;s started a series on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dizwell.com\/prod\/node\/937\">new initialisation parameters<\/a> which I&#8217;m looking forward to working my way through. Julian Dyke has also published some summary information on <a href=\"http:\/\/juliandyke.com\/\">his website<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s quite a bit of debate about what precisely the CONTROL_MANAGEMENT_PACK_ACCESS parameter actually does. The MMON process (to use one example) is still running, but I suppose someone would need to trace it to establish whether there&#8217;s any resulting overhead. The default value of &#8220;DIAGNOSTIC+TUNING&#8221; seems strange to me, though. Even as someone who has argued that the minority who license these options is significant, I don&#8217;t doubt for a second that it&#8217;s <i>still<\/i> a minority and is likely to remain so. Based on that, it would have been far safer to have the default set to &#8220;NONE&#8221; to avoid anyone accidentally violating their license agreements and, on that subject, I see Mark Brinsmead&#8217;s had <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pythian.com\/blogs\/583\/open-letter-to-oracle-the-response-so-far\">some response from Oracle<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>My highlight of the first few days, though, is a discussion over on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.freelists.org\/archives\/oracle-l\/\">Oracle-L<\/a> about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.freelists.org\/archives\/oracle-l\/08-2007\/msg00325.html\">the move <i>back<\/i> towards an OFA-compliant directory structure<\/a>. I never truly got to the bottom of the muddled 10g approach and assumed I was missing something, but the fact that Oracle have reverted to the traditional approach might indicate that they were missing something! &#128521; Yippee!<\/p>\n<p>Either way, it&#8217;s all more material for my OFA-related presentation at UKOUG this year! (See, told you I had very boring tastes &#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>Oh, and there are tons of excellent 11g technical blogs over at <a href=\"http:\/\/technology.amis.nl\/blog\/\">Amis<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pythian.com\/blogs\/\">Pythian<\/a>, but I&#8217;ll leave it there for now.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(and I&#8217;m writing this from a positive perspective) Now that the community is over the initial &#8216;Look over, there! It&#8217;s 11g!!!!&#8217;, there are some genuinely interesting blogs kicking around. (Maybe we need to give these things a little time?) I&#8217;d better only talk about a couple, though, or Dave Edwards will start telling me off&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"http:\/\/orcldoug.com\/blog\/2007\/08\/14\/thats-more-like-it\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">That&#8217;s More Like It!<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1310","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","entry"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1294,"url":"http:\/\/orcldoug.com\/blog\/2007\/07\/12\/oracle-11g-total-recall\/","url_meta":{"origin":1310,"position":0},"title":"Oracle 11g &#8211; Total Recall","date":"July 12, 2007","format":false,"excerpt":"I suppose most readers will be aware that Oracle held a big launch for 11g yesterday, including the release of various technical docs at OTN. 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